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Wonderer Skills/Builds/Stats

Discussion in 'Wonderer' started by DomacH, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    I guess it cause it not his Style of Tanking Dmg.
     
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    Well I like going all tank with the great HP and SP, but I just can't stand not doing any damage. Think it runs in the family xD
     
  3. ~Rayleigh

    ~Rayleigh One for the money~ Staff Member Moderator

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    Can you log in, I wanna show you my lv 30 and what it can do as a tank. If not thats fine i understand .-. just be a unique damage dealer if you go that route.

    Ch 4 no unlimted.
     
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    Not really online all that often, maybe some other time?
     
  5. ~Rayleigh

    ~Rayleigh One for the money~ Staff Member Moderator

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    Thats fine, you can always message me via pm or something.
     
  6. Mont

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    i agree with ray. defence = more damage output.

    btw im lv98 dex men vit. upside can play atk and matk. downside is i compensated with 4 sets of different weapons, human 2h spear. human blunts. human onehandspears. and no type 8s 2h spear for grinding. broke as hell
     
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  7. Viktor

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    Is str>vit=men a good build?
     
  8. Oceanmk

    Oceanmk Exploring around~

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    Is like good in average defense but sometimes depend on the player. It is good but not what i want. Maybe not what you want too. U can feel the different if you tested different build in different accounts..

    Focus on a specific area is easier. At least you know you are good in that area and that boost your confident.
     
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    Well im currently lvl 15 and ill see if that build aint good or not and maybe experiment some other build but tnx men for letting me know that there r more better builds that will be easier to use than my current build
     
  10. Oceanmk

    Oceanmk Exploring around~

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    Yeah sure. I am testing new builds now and see how Str and Men relate to each other. Seems interesting. Depend on which is more effective Str > Men or Men > Str really need more testing. Or maybe my original tested Men > Vit is the more adaptable build. We shall go along and see. Never trust the standard until we tested it lol..hk avabel i put my eyes on uuuu..
     
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  11. Erisan

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    I have STR > MEN build and i think this is more effective, bard heal is great and my sp dont waste when im change to spiker or Battle Dancer ^-^
     

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  12. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    HK Avabel Wiki said MEN>STR is a Special Type Build.
     
  13. Oceanmk

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    Interesting lol. Make a 5000 Heal build xD.

    And i see Str > Men seems good. Oh man, now Vit seems not as useful anymore. More class now ditch Vit.
     
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  14. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    but I will always Do STR/MEN>DEX tho Cause that even more Special Type Stat Build lol #UniqueWondereroverhere.
     
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  15. WHITE94

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    good to hear not everyone going the vit route, that really got me concerned ^.^ I have STR>MEN=DEX (kinda)
     
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    Power hungry is the trend now \(-^-^)/ ~U are slightly more creative though hehe. Good work there. Keep posting findings and we will show people how special and strong wonderer can be :)

    Curious to know how good is your crit ^^
     
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    without guild passives:
    STR 94
    DEX=MEN 28

    I dont crit enough in my opinion, though that comes from the fact that I am still mastering Bard (we don't have skills with many hits) so I really cannot say how many times I crit, but when it crits it is like 1.6x-1.8x the damage

    i feel extremely squishy though, and i die alot in pvp, but my build isn't finished yet (MOAR dex and men probably D: ) and therapy melody + battle dancer is gonna change my world :D

    then again, about wonderer's squishiness:
    1. when passive maxed out we should be having the highest hp
    2. THERAPY MELODY (you just need to learn when you should not heal, especially if you took the 4 times heal branch like me xD)
    3. our strengh does not lie in taking damage, we avoid it, we have speed

    another thing i found about TM (at least it makes sense to me like that)
    STR affects the heal someone (including you) receives, MEN affects the heal you give
    BUT you gain more heal per 1 MEN than you do per 1 STR
    ->you can easily and cheaply test this out with +2MEN/STR rings from item shop since TM heal is constant ;)
     
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  18. Mont

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    i rhink warrior has the most hp naturally. i have a 100 warrior and 98 wonderer so thats how i compare. i may be wrong.
    assuming u have no vit, max wd hp passive, u will have around 6-7k hp depending wad armor u wear. so with all the "power", u wont be able to tank one hidden from PA, geodancer, Ignite etc. ya some can say," i can dodge." so lets put aside the player skills in this discussion. in a mass event like tower or gvg where there's a significant bombardment of skills from maybe, 50 people, how much can 6-7k hp tank. advent advanced classes deal easily 6k-9k damage in a single skill.

    If talking abt pvp, either go full dex or dont go at all. Even if u have 100dex, u cant critical someone with 160 dex. u would den want to hit them with raw power. den again spiker passive comes in, havent tested spiker passive on someone with high dex.

    but thanks for the info on TM, makes sense to me. how much do u heal bro just for reference
     
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  19. Oceanmk

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    Yeah mont. That's why i never understand the standard build for wonderer.

    Perharps those builds like Str > Men, Men > Str is for in game play for skills to use in the most potential way. Even Full Dex or similar build is really getting my nerve spooky as i feel so insecure.

    I feel the urge to die slower too. I know big battles even dash skill can be dangerous. And no matter how skillful at dodging seems in vain.

    Maybe is in my genes to love defensive approach. I guess that makes avabel forum a good guide with people here talking. ^^

    Btw, i heal 300+, 400+, 500+. I picked the cooldown branch. Actually nearly all skills, if possible i already picked the cooldown branch. To counter wonderer natural disadvantage.
     
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    with ~100 STR and 40 MEN total i heal 200, 300, 300, 400

    now i really do feel like restarting my char and going VIT>MEN or so (because i can't afford a restat scroll) >.< i am aware that i won't do much damage in the beginning tho..

    btw do you know how much hp a full VIT char would have end game (or a 100 VIT build)?
    thats what always concerned me honestly.. i am aware that it depends on your class, even adv class, but still will it be +1k hp or more like +4k hp?

    anyway thx for the first reply :)
     

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