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Discussion in 'Rogue' started by Leo Striker, Mar 29, 2014.
*Waiting hidden in the shadows*
Full dex, if you want to see lots of crits then i wont say full dex is bad, i hve a friend who have alts with lvl around 80ish with full dex stats. The crits is always come out on his every hits, the chance to crits maybe 90% cause i saw he always crits everytime he hits mob. BUT, the bad news is, eventho he crits, the damage is so poor, maybe his crits deals same amount of damage or lesser than a ranger with str build at his lvl.
For me, i choose to focus on str, put more dex on rogue isnt a bad idea since it will help duplex and crit chance, but going full dex isnt a good idea. I hve some ro friends who tried to restat couple of times just to try dex build, but in the end they choose to restat back to str.
But in the end the choice is yours, maybe you can ask some more ppl for more advice
And good luck bud ^^
Thanks for your reply, and i have another question!
Debuster is a importante to advance with?
I mean, im currently SR now but im willing to go Assassin without being Debuster, some people say debuster is good and essential to rogue, others not so much, but i want to know your opinion about it.
Yes debuster is a nice class for pvp, needle blow is needed if you want more ranged skill, this skill will be usefull when you fight a wr, but need work on how to aim with this skill. The rizing is good skill, you can make it into combo with jump gearblade then the rizing, back storm is nice for counter atk againts aggresive melle enemy on pvp.
But the most useful db skill for me is the needle blow
Assassin is cool class but i choose to master db first cause if i max assassin first i cant take the hidden skill as master, thats why i choose db first hehe.
I took lvl 50 but where can i farm sharp and hard pls help!
did you check the Different Dungeon Thread? and also Tuesday is Sharp Dungeon and Thursday is Hard Dungeon.
I didnt check it where can i find?
Avabel Game Guide Section.
4 lvl ahead that means his lvl is 56. I believe at that lvl assassin is his only adv class. Thats why taking assassin as first class isnt a good idea, my opinion assassin doesnt hve good skill for 1v1, line blade and 7 swords are good for group fight but not on 1v1. Dual ramble is fast but you need to be close with opponent which means theres high risk youll also receive damage.
Well thats just my opinion CMIIW
Not sure if this person did this or not but it is common for players to excessively use adv skills for the first few lvs of getting an adv class. Rogue in genrual can fight at an consite mid range (no i dont mean spamming dagger throw or something simular to that) If you branch skills with more range. But becuase like strife said assasin skills are really small in range compared to line or 7 swords and even then 7 swords can only be used as a "trap card" in 1v1 fights. I use line blade to force a role (i learned to aim with it pretty well) and slap them with what ever skill that can reach them without risking much recoil damage from them swinging back right after a roll.
uhm, is dex 40+10 still ok? o_ol|
thanks in advance
Yes it is
Tests that I did just Forgot to post them here
Rakanir Lvl 30 HP and SP:
gets 9-10HP from Vit and 2-3SP from Men
Warrior: 1345HP&278SP Gets 11HP from Vit and 2-3SP from Men
gets 10-11HP from Vit and 2-3SP from Men
gets 9-10HP from Vit and 2-3SP from Men
Gets 10-11HP from Vit and 2-3SP from Men
gets 8-9HP from Vit and 3SP from Men
gets 9HP from Vit and and 3SP from Men
When I Restated I did VIT then I did MEN on lvl 85 Wolfnir Ro VIT was 39-40HP Per Stat Point while MEN was 5-6SP Per Stat Point not what I expected really was hoping it would of Gave a Little bit more but it nice to know the HP & SP I would get if did Full VIT or Full MEN
Sea Fire Lv9 Debuff:took 154 Mdef
Sea Fire Debuff on Mdef does Increase every lvl it goes up
Katon Explosion Lv9: 517
Whirlwind Slash Lv9: 330s+x4
Katon Explosion Lv9 with Debuff: 655
Whirlwind Slash Lv9 with Debuff: 400sx4
Sea FIre Lv10 Type B: Took 159 Mdef
Katon Explosion Lv9 with Debuff:664
Whirlwind Slash Lv9 with Debuff:420sx4
Lvl 80 5* Deer Stalker(Mdef Head): DEF: 58, MDEF: 75, SP: 49
Lvl 80 5* Upper Smear(Balance Armor): DEF: 136, MDEF: 128, HP: 273, SP: 187
Lvl 80 5* Lower Smear(Balance Armor): DEF: 116, MDEF: 108, HP: 225, SP: 139
SP Regen Testing:
No Armor with MEN 5+10 is 8SP per Tick(683 SP)
8SP is 12.5% of 683SP
Lvl 80 MEN Ring with 5+20 is 11SP Per Tick(742)
11SP is 9.09(Repeat)% of 742
Smear Lv50 Lower(Balance Armor) with MEN 5+10 is 10SP per Tick(822)
10SP is 10% of 822?
Smear Lv50 Lower(Balance Armor) with Lvl 80 MEN Ring: MEN 5+20 is 12SP Per Tick(881SP)
12SP is 8.3(Repeat) of 881SP
Smear Lv50 Upper(Balance Armor) with MEN 5+10 is 10SP Per Tick(870SP)
10SP is 10% of 870SP
Smear Lv50 Upper(Balance Armor) with MEN 5+20 is 13SP Per Tick(929SP)
13SP is 7.6923076992307692% of 929SP
Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+10 is 9SP Per Tick(732SP)
9SP is 11.11111111111111% of 732SP
Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+20 is 11SP Per Tick(791SP)
11SP is 9.090909090909091% of 791SP
Smear Lv50 Upper&Lower(Balance Armor) with MEN 5+10 is 12SP Per Tick(1009SP)
12SP is 8.333333333333333% of 1009SP
Smear Lv50 Upper&Lower(Balance Armor) with MEN 5+20 is 14SP Per Tick(1068SP)
14SP is 7.142857142857143% of 1068SP
Smear Lv50 Lower(Balance Armor)& Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+10 is 10SP Per Tick(871SP)
10SP is 10% of 871SP
Smear Lv50 Lower(Balance Armor)& Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+20 is 13SP Per Tick(930SP)
13SP is 7.692307692307692% of 930SP
Smear Lv50 Upper(Balance Armor)&Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+10 is 11SP Per Tick(919SP)
11SP is 9.09(Repeat)1% of 919SP
Smear Lv50 Upper(Balance Armor)&Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+20 is 13SP Per Tick(978SP)
13SP is 7.692307692307692% of 978SP
Smear Lv50 Upper&Lower(Balance Armor)&Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+10 is 12SP Per Tick(1058SP)
12SP is 8.3(Repeat)% of 1058SP
Smear Lv50 Upper&Lower(Balance Armor)&Deer Stalker(Mdef Head) with MEN 5+20 is 15SP Per Tick(1117SP)
15SP is 6.6(Repeat)7% of 1117SP
HP Regen Testing:
No Armor with VIT at 10+10 is 26HP Per Tick(4549HP)
26HP is 3.846153846153846% of 4549HP
No Armor with VIT at 10+20 is 30HP Per Tick(4915HP)
30HP is 3.3(Repeat)% of 4915HP
No Armor with VIT at 10+30 is 34HP Per Tick(5391HP)
34HP is 2.941176470588235% of 5391HP
Upper Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+10 is 28HP Per Tick(4822HP)
28HP is 3.571428571428571% of 4822HP
Upper Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+20 is 31HP Per Tick(5188HP)
31HP is 3.225806451612903% of 5188HP
Upper Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+30 is 36HP Per Tick(5664HP)
36HP is 2.7(Repeat)8% of 5664HP
Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+10 is 27HP Per Tick(4774HP)
27HP is 3.703(Repeat)704% of 4774HP
Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+20 is 31HP Per Tick(5140HP)
31HP is 3.225806451612903% of 5140HP
Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+30 is 36HP Per Tick(5616HP)
36HP is 2.7(Repeat)8% of 5616HP
Upper&Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+10 is 29HP Per Tick(5047HP)
29HP is 3.448275862068966% of 5047HP
Upper&Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+20 is 33HP Per Tick(5413HP)
33HP is 3.03(Repeat)% of 5413HP
Upper&Lower Smear Lv50(Balance Armor) with VIT 10+30 is 37HP Per Tick(5889HP)
37HP is 2.702(Repeat)703% of 5889HP
ATK: 468~456, MATK: 253~241 with Light Weapon
ATK: 478~466 MATK: 263~251 with Dark Weapon
Claw Bite Lv1: DEF: -5(-10) , MDEF: -5(-10)
Claw Bite Lv1 + Sea Fire Lv10: DEF: -5(-10), MDEF: -35(-70)
Kynx Lvl 82 Rv:
Claw Bite Lv1: 350s
ToSIiro lvl 76 Sr:
Claw Bite Lv1 + Sea Fire B Lv10: 81(140)
Claw Bite Lv1: 388, / 200+, 346(Crit)
Raven Dagger Lv1: 189, 187, 186/ 493(crit)
Dirgebringer Lv1: 587, 579, 586
Dark Enchancer Lv1: +10 to ATK & MATK,Lv2: +1 ATK & MATK, Lv3:+1 ATK & MATK,Lv4: +1 ATK & MATK,
Raven's Claw Bite Lv1: 300(normal) 600+(Crit), Seems to last about 5 Secs
DEF:180(313) -8(-12), MDEF 137(232) -8(-11).
Claw Bite Lv2: 340-353(normal) DEF: 179(312) -9(-13), MDEF: 136(231) -9(-12)
Claw Bite Lv3: 360-370(Normal) DEF: 179(311) -9(-14), MDEF: 136(230) -9(13)
might increase by 5secs per Lv
Claw Bite Lv4: 385, 378, 386, DEF: 178(310) -10(-15), MDEF: 135(229) -10(-14), Last about 20-22Secs
Claw Bite Lv5: DEF: 178(309) -10(-16), MDEF: 135(228) -10(-15), 410+(Normal), 25-26 Secs
Branch: Special Type
Claw Bite Type C Lv6:
Debuff: DEF: 177(308) -11(-17), MDEF:134(227) -11(-16)
Claw Bite Type C Lv7:
Debuff: DEF: 177(307) -11(-18), MDEF: 134(226) -11(-17)
Claw Bite Type C Lv8: 530-540(Normal), DEF: 181(309), MDEF: 138(227)(With +5 Stats) , 25-26Secs
DEF:181(309)= 176(306) -12(-19) MDEF: 138 (227)= 133 (225) -12(-18)
Claw Bite Type C Lv9: DEF: 181(306), MDEF: 138(226), 25Secs, 547-558(Normal)
DEF: 176(305) -12(-20) MDEF: 133(224) -12(-19)
(+5 Stats Ended)
Claw Bite Type C Lv10: 591-602, DEF:175(303) -13(-22), MDEF: 132(222) -13(-21)
Seen the name of the corner and caught my attention I need help with selling prices on a 5* dark N dagger and assassin sword dp-c any idea
N Dagger can be check in Stall what I do is take the Largest Price and Smallest Price and then go between them or the Subtracted Price from them.
OK I'll check now and come back with what I came up with
@Leo Striker, ive got a Chic Red Box, and i see the price is good. but how can i sell it ?
would you please gave me a suggestion about this ?
Chic boxes them selfs need a premium ticket to sell on the stall, but thier contents (normaly low end avatars) can be sold without one. The price of the avatar inside the box depends on what comes out.
thankyou rayleih for the explanation.
btw, im a RO lv 35, where should i grinding ? and where should i farm for gold
if i strengthen my 3* equip, is it worth ?
please advice @rayleih or @Leo Striker
Floor 4 once you Higher Level Floor 6 but beware of F6 Boss. You Would Level Fast but then again each has their Pace but wait till your Lvl 50 at Least for Strengthen your Gear.