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Shinobi Skill+Build Guide

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    After i mastering db and rv im on sr but im almost done with it. I was wondering is shinobi recommended for someone who uses a 1hsword+shield? Would i still be able to manage even if sea fire and tree spears r my most damaging si skills? Even tho katon explosion is my favorite, its like backstorm with an aoe and charge time
     
  2. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    ah No I Edit my First Post about Shinobi and I agree it like Backstorm AoE Version. Shinobi is not For you if you don't use Dagger Sea Fire is Atk Skill and MDEF Debuffer as Such Shinobi wants you to Rely on your Matk Skills
     
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    Three spears still cannot be mastered?
     
  4. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    did you Read the Thread?
    @Mashiro Post that the Update from a Long ago Fix that Bug
     
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    I didnt see that post, i read 8 pages and I asked because of those many updates we had.
     
  6. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    it was on Page 4 Post #66 Yeah most of the Posts before that one was about Weapon for Shinobi and Talking about other Advance Classes.
     
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    Guess ill just wait on db til they release new classes
    Really hope this next rogue one specializes in 1hswords
     
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    Im newbie.
    I just moved to lvl 52. And i planned to be a shinobi..
    My stat str=dex with a little int..
    Is it good to be shinobi? Or better be a raven? Please answer me guys.
     
  9. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    Shinobi is not a Advance Class to be Chosen as 1st Advance Class go Raven, Storm Raider, then if you want Shinobi you will need Master Skills as Shinobi's Skills are Slow in Enchanting and CD till you get them to Lv6 and choose either Shorter Enchanting or Shorter Cooldown.
     
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    Despite what everyone says about going not shinobi first i did it first call me stubborn but its and awesome class i went pure int and str so even though my regular rogue attacks are in the 200s on floor 11 my shinobi skills ar level 3-4 and i do 570+ with every attack. I have 2 3* daggers that are at level 9. I planned to go assassin after because i love twin rumble so much but right now im farming random dungeons for jxp and farming floor 3. Look out for me in town usually on ch3 FLYTE
     
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    Is there a way to balance physical dmg, magic dmg and high hp without those expensive ass rings?
    A better question actually, how much matk is enough? How much matk is enough to land atleast average magic atk blows? My gb does about 450+ normally against ppl my lv, rizing about 800-1k and claw bite 400+ and thats with a 6* 1hsword and 131 str making my dmg 520-(i think) 550 If i used 2 5* daggers for instance,how much matk would i need to land decent matk blows? 520-550?? And when i say matk blows i mean shinobi skills mainly
     
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  12. Leo Striker

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    ah how about having your Matk= to your Atk?
     
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    Lol that was all messed up, lemme ask the question more clearly. I want to have the type of normal atk that most rogues would have while at the same time having above average hp and decent magic damage. Like u kno those paladins who be full int with that really low phy dmg? I dont wanna be like them, nor do i wanna be the same way xTorek was which is mainly str. I wanna embrace the magic of rv/si while maintaining acceptable dmg with with skills like rizing and gb like xTorek did. I guess wat im askin for is a build? Lol
     
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    your looking for INT/STR/VIT Build but question is you said Above Average HP just Putting 1 Stat Point in VIT makes your HP Above Average. INT>STR, VIT 20-40 Even then VIT 40 feels too tanky for Rogues. Dagger's MATK is always 90-100Pts+ Below ATK but cause we never add Stat points to INT it looks like on our Status it always 100-200Pts+ Below.
     
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    Would you say adding int has a dramiatic effect on Shi and Ravern skills .if so I'm adding 50 int . When 1 do turn those classes
     
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    Raven isnt matk in anyway. It just debuffs to reduce mdef for your si class or as a support for other matk based classes.

    Secendly, you wouldnt be able to achive your goal unless you got really nice dagger(s). Like 8+ star. With a 20-40 vit and str=int build you would have natrualy less atk anyway unless you had that nice dagger, but your matk will be above average. Thier is no REAL balance for those two damages, even with paladin or classes like that.
     
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    Actually Claw Bite+Sea Fire=Mega Debuff on MDEF also those Daggers would Help but it doable with 6* Daggers also STR=INT wouldn't balance the ATK and MATK would have to add INT till MATK was Even or Close to ATK as such it it really a INT>STR. but yeah Raven isn't Matk Hope our 6th Advance Class is tho and with Heal Skill too.
     
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    I wasnt being exact bout the stat xD namly cause thier is hardly any real benafit from going this route aside from the matk in pvp for that sirprise damage and or just want to be different.

    Twas also pointing out to him that raven has no matk skillz but only a debuff which lets him use it with si as of current the onky matk rouge class.

    Leo I thought some us covered that buffs/debuffs dont stack on the same attribute so those two debuffs would cancle eachother out. I mean if im wrong bout the debuff please show me a noticable difference when combining the two debuffs then useing it. Cause you and dusk are the only two i know with those classes mastered.
     
  19. Leo Striker

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    yes I know some Buffs/Debuffs don't Stack but I tested Sea Fire+Claw Bite and Posted it on my Thread which was Renamed to wolf's corner.
     
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    No such thing as too tanky..
     

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