Average to weak but with hidden potential. I play Men > Vit. The damage potential of painter you have to use another way to see it. Not just the normal skill damage. You have to see it from the mass increase in stat that create double the damage. Like in pvp when dying increase overall stat, painter gets double the damage bonus because Men is Int. New hidden of hermit boost all stat +14 at level 10 (info credits to avabel hk) Double the potential in low damage skills like magical sketch/mixed pallete.