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  1. Oceanmk

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    Some player say painter deal damage very low even with full Int. And that's because painter have a interesting way of dealing damage using Men stat. The more Men invested, the more Int boost. Without Men, or less than a certain amount, it will reduce Int. The amount and figures of increase/decrease Int, affected by Men still up for testing.

    Ideally is to invest men as a secondary stat to offset the negative effect of reducing int (Int > Men build). Some player with Men as main stat can use painter very well but less stable compared to Int Player (only two skills using Men, one skill Puppet Dome depend fully on Int). Avabel jp site advise to use Men as the main stat to play painter, though Avabel hk site have different view as they advise full Int for a easier and stable game play, taking geo dancer and undine as part of the consideration.

    Painter is like Bard, using Men stat to do amazing stuff. The potential is there, waiting for players to do research and find out more ~ \(-^-^)/
     
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  2. Haccy_1andOnly

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    Thank you so much. I ended up restarting my wanderer from the beginning. So now I'm only 46. I built up Str and Int 2:1 To prepare for Painter. But with this information, Im kinda glad now I did pull back on stat points. Atleast this way, as I continue and unlock Painter, I'll be able to test as I go and have back up stats to play with. Thanks @Oceanmk

    Question tho: if two servers are opposing, full int vs full men...would it be safe to bet that a 2:1 build on int/men or men/int would work, as well? I'm not gonna do it to mine but curious if that ratio would work if one stat does in fact support the other. I feel 1:1 may mute them a little bit. With them being "too" balanced.
     
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    Balance is the key to winning! I guess feeling great while playing also consider winning hehe :p
     
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  4. ~Rayleigh

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    No matter what you go for a bare min of men (say 20/40/60) is needed to get the full effects of the entire wander class.
     
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    So wait, did I just waste my time starting over on the previous balanced Wanderer I had? (-_-)
    For a painter then, what would the recommended men be? 20-40?
    I think I'm gonna open it, use it...monitor the damages and adjust the stats as I go with the left over points I have. Ill be able to collect some more till then.
    This is frustrating lol.
     
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    Frustrated but fun lol. Not many experience things like @Haccy_1andOnly afterall ;)
     
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  7. Haccy_1andOnly

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    Oh shush you! lol xD
     
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    I'm going to restat my bard..
    My stats is 61 Str, 97 MEN.
    I'm gonna basically switch my STR points to INT, and make my MEN 87 to give another 10 points to INT, then just put all points after to INT.

    So basically, bard>undine/painter/geo
     
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    Haha i just unlock Painter. Men stat indeed increase the Int amount when using mixed pallete or magical sketch.
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    I tried to use first aid after mixed pallete (lv 3). Heal increase from 9 to 18 xD.
     
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  10. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    Wonderer's is using their MENtality unlike other Classes.
     
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    Able to attack with a defensive stat make me very happy :D

    Now Men stat is offically an agressive (main) stat xD
     
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    Mentality=Wisdom..............................Wisdom is useful for everything you do.............but the other classes don't use it................so does that mean.................Wait..............let not go there............Cause then we might go into something like a Dark Abyss...............:rolleyes:
     
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    @~Rayleigh Rogue plurr in rage~ Mew attack with his wisdom claws!

    Oh Men wonderer, look soft but can be scary at times :p
    Oh Men rogue, look scary but can be gentle at times ;)
     
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    There is a reason that Wanderer's Passive Skills are increased maximum Health points & Skill points, and that Bard's Passive skill provides bonus Strength & Mentality that reason is because the only Status needed as a Wanderer is that exactly. My theory is if your aiming for Magic Attack & Mentality based advanced classes, I would go for a status build of 65 Strength & Full Mentality. Also there's more to Mentality, including Vitality then some players understand.
     
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    Indeed strength is important. But now players know the effective build (Int > Men) and they never look back to old build (Men > Str) or even older build which i'm using now (Men > Vit).
     
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    I crit 4k+ with full men bard with discord. Wheeewww
     
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    Well Strength & Mentality is the primary build. Using a One Handed Rod, you can't use Flame of Peace or Mind Sphere, which is very important as a Wanderer. Battle support is a Wanderers primary playstyle. But yes, if your just interested in dealing Magic Attack as much as you would deal Attack using a Two Handed Spear, then Intelligence & Mentality is the proper status build, you'll just no longer be battle supportive. So, technically a Intelligence & Mentality built Wanderer is a tertiary status build.
     
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    Mind Sphere cut my sp into half..That makes me sad lol..

    As for painter with Men > Vit stat , i have to say its damage is pretty low compare to str based wonderer skills. Avabel hk info is more accurate. Go Int for a more stable damage and Men to offset the negative effect cause by the both Men based skills (magical sketch and mixed pallete).
     
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    What is a good amount of men for a painter if going int>men
     
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    Is anyone here still reading this? Can someone anwser Linker's question ):? If too much int is bad for the painter class and it needs men to take off negative effects how much int and men is reconmended?

    Has anyone tried full Men build, Is that good?
     
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