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Myths and Facts of Rogues

Discussion in 'Rogue' started by cirhsoptehr, Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. cirhsoptehr

    cirhsoptehr New Member

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    I've been looking around the rogue section for a while and found some myths about them circulating the forum... I'd like to clarify and hopefully it will help new players to better understand the class Rogue.
    First of... Rogues have elemental skills, but only after they advance classes. Assasin has dark element and Debuster has Lightning and Fire. Second... About critical rate... If ur stats says u have 40+5 HIT, it doesn't mean you have 45% chance of landing a critical hit... it is much less... from my experience, I'd say is more like 4.5% crit rate... it also depends on the level of ur opponent...the lower the greater chance of crit chance, the higher lvl the lesser crit chance u will have... oh and crit lock is not achievable... I know a rogue with 150 dex+ max dex rings + Orbs... his critical rate is about 2/5 crit rate... but honestly the dmg doesnt make up for it... well hope this helps! Cheers! More power :)
     
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  2. Reonen Zeruel

    Reonen Zeruel The Revenger

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    One thing I don't agree on is about Storm Raider. Sir, I've played Storm Raider and I've experienced fighting Earth mobs. Now, my Gear Blade's damages does not weaken against 19th floor mobs - I'm using an Earth Elemental Weapon. Wind in this game is weak against Earth. Now, if an Elemental that you're using is weak againts to the mob that you're fighting with, your damages gets depreciated by 150-200 points - from what I've experienced. I do agree with your opinion about Debuster though, since I've made a Debuster myself - new character. Lastly, about Assassin - that I don't know of, since I haven't tried Assassin myself.
     
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    cirhsoptehr New Member

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    I'm glad you mentioned that... I tested it today and yes you are right... it looks like gear blade has no element. Thank you for informing us ;) *edited*
     
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    Will debusters thunder atk weaken agianst certain elemental enemies?
     
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    marcocococo IGN: WiN / Pansit Gold Member

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    Yes, against an earth element.
     
  6. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    um no it not The Rizing is strong against Water elements Backstorm is strong against Earth elements
     
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    marcocococo IGN: WiN / Pansit Gold Member

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    You didnt understand what his question is wolf. Lol
     
  8. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    Nah he ask for The Rizing Atk meaning asking about half of it Dmg but The Rizing's Dmg is also affected by Int just as well by Str so but I Still say your right
     
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    rizing is a pure str based skill pretty sure.
     
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    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    want to find out? I Try Ro and Db's Skills while I was testing Poison Skills cause I was doing Random Dungeon so I can lvl up the Poison Skills with Int=Dex and Int=Str=Dex Builds
     
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    I always test skills with @Mashiro. if rizing was int based then my rizing shouldve been stronger than mashiro's rizing.

    mashiro has an atk of 600+ in his stats. mine is 480
    mashiro's matk is below 230's. mine is 367.

    if it is int based like shinobis fuma skill. I wouldve done more dmg with my rizing skill compared to other rogues due to my high magic atk stats.

    up to you if you would be open minded about it or not. im just contributing to the topic for aspiring rogues out there.

    been a rogue since beta and has only been my only character
     
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    also dont test it on mobs because mobs have different defenses too. better to try it with a friend in pvp with a set defense, your results will be more accurate
     
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    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    ah my Mistake I meant to say that it Str and Int Based you can go either way for the Skills but also note that the Skill's Dmgs can be affected by Atk and Matk and also I did tested it on Mobs and Players
     
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    i asked someone before to hit me with rizing. my character was wearing nothing and it did 1300.
    i asked him again to hit me but this time i wore nothing but an MDEF shield. damage was still the same. so yea...just letting you know how I did my own experiment in finding out if a skill is INT or STR based. unless they changed these stuffs in every update.
     
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    He asked if db thunder atk will weaken against certain elements. Means he's asking for that skill's weakness not strength.
     
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    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    hmm I wonder if they did also mine was done before theses Latest Updates So I wonder if they made it based on our Weapons Dmg? cause since Dagger has Matk they made the Skills INT and STR based therefore if one goes for Sword then Str is all they need since it only has Atk, and if going Dagger then Int, Str, or Both since Dagger has Atk and Matk. I also thought all Ro's Skills were Str as well so I thought Int for Rogues was just wrong like Men but it seems Avabel is changing.
     
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    lol dont make up stuffs like that haha youre just gonna confuse yourself. as far as I know though all Ro skills are str except for shinobi's fuma and katon (has a base dmg and increases dmg depending on your matk)
     
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    Leo will always be leo xD
     
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    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    dang I want to do a test now but I don't have the time to do it maybe after I have more time then i can do this Test
     
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    Does it include Sr, Db and As' skills too--all str based?
     
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