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Dual Wield Q&A

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  1. GJO

    GJO Doesn't Hassle the Hoff

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    I did a quick test on my Rogue with sword + shield today. First tested damage without shield. Then when I equipped the shield and retested, my damage dropped by 9,1%. Is there any way to influence this percentage?
    I was using a 4* sword for lvl30 and a 2* shield for level 30.
     
  2. aleph

    aleph Active Member

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    As far as I've been able to test, there isn't really anything that you can do to change the percentage. Equipping a shield appears to be an automatic damage nerf of around 10%. I did a couple of videos a few months back to demonstrate this.
    Acolyte 1h blunt vs dual wield blunt vs blunt + shield vs 2h rod:
    https://www.kamcord.com/v/fqLuxUd8j6q
    Creator 1h blunt vs dual wield blunt vs blunt +shield:
    https://www.kamcord.com/v/avAgQeyMe5K
     
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  3. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    ......................oh Snap.......................ALEPH WAS HERE!? AND I MISS HIM!? anyway I agree with Aleph as I Switch Weapons and Shield on my lvl 30 Alt(s)(Cause I Delete and Remake my Alts cause of Reasons) and my Dmg do Drop with Shield Equipped.
     
  4. dmaman

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    If i am dw a sword and spear (spear in left hand) will i be able to use the samurai skills for 1h sword and stinger skills for spear of will i have to constantly change them?
     
  5. Zucrea

    Zucrea Pride & Wrath

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    Are samurai skills not for 1h spear also? Coulda swore they were.
     
  6. dmaman

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    Unfortunatly no
    the samurai skills are either 1h or 2h sword
     
  7. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    wait I thought 1 Skill is usable with 2h Sword the rest of the 3 Skills aren't?
     
  8. ~Rayleigh

    ~Rayleigh One for the money~ Staff Member Moderator

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    If the skill requires a spear it needs to be in the right hand. If the skill requires a 1h sword then it needs to be in the right hand. Any skill use that requires a certain weapon is and can only be used if said weapon is in the right hand.

    I personally dont know what all sam can use (i assumed any 1 handed weapon was viable).
     
  9. dmaman

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    i mean as an overall class

    So is it advisable to get a 1h sword in right hand and a spear with simillar atk stats so that i can get the matk bonus?
     
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  10. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    as an Overall Class it a 1 Hand Weapon Class: Blunt?, Axe, 1h Sword, Dagger these can use all Skills other Weapons can only use 1 or none of the Skills.
     
  11. ~Rayleigh

    ~Rayleigh One for the money~ Staff Member Moderator

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    If i may (because only paladin uses matk for warriors) why are you trying to achieve some what high matk? You should have as high as possibale star rated matk weapons if you are going to dual wield them with a weapon without matk. Main reason it can also bring up not only your matk to a more reasonable level (if you stick to this route) but as well a higher atk rating.
     
  12. dgo1987

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    If i have a 6 ☆ dagger and a 6 ☆ 1h rod of the same level ¿How i calculate the average damage i will do? I ask because my atk will drop and my matk will boost.

    Right now i have 2 lvl70 6☆ Adarga(Di) that make 273-312Atk/ 188-218Matk. I want to sell one dagger and buy a lvl70 1h rod 6☆ that make 170- 194Atk/ 226-269Matk but i dont know if the boost in Matk will worth the drop in Atk.

    Pd: Sorry for the odd questions but i dont want to buy the rod if its not gonna worth it lol.
     
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    To test damage only, find a cheaper 4* or 5* 2h rod that has a MATK in the 226-269 range. Equip the 2h rod. Run your magic damage tests, and use that to decide if it's worth it. Note that this won't be completely accurate if you need to test complicated things like monster orb effects, elements, cooldowns, etc.
     
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    What i mean is when you equip weapons with different damage it will drop or boost youre damage. For example i use dual daggers so my damage is the same but if i use dagger+1h rod, the dagger atk is higher than matk and the 1h rod matk is higher so how will change my min and max atk/matk damagr if i use dagger in right and 1h rod in left hand.
     
  15. Taibasa Tsuyou

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    Take the average of the Min Atk of Dagger and 1H Rod.
    Take the Average of the Max Atk of Dagger and 1H Rod.

    Take the Average of the Min Matk of Dagger and 1H Rod.
    Take the Average of the Max Matk of Dagger and 1H Rod.

    You'll get the numbers then.
     
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  16. SkyKid

    SkyKid idk why i play

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    ATK= 221-253
    MATK= 207-243

    Seems like you end up being balanced on both ends. Hope your build helps you
     
  17. dgo1987

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    Well i lose 59-59pts of Atk and win 19-25pts of Matk dont know if it worth it... :S
     
  18. Mizu Zangetsu

    Mizu Zangetsu New Member

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    I actually have to duel wield since Raiden won't allow anything else o.o
     
  19. makaynoh

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    In dual wielding for mages. I already know that weapon element only affects the same element skill and makes no element skill to its element. And if you dual wield the same element, the effect gets doubled. So heres my question what if you wield different elements. Like fire for ignite and wind for sylwinder. Does it still increase the damage of wind and fire element skills or not? Or is it a bad idea?
     
  20. cwilfried

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    lol i was wondering the same thing.
     

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