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Dual Wield Q&A

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  1. Julie Ava

    Julie Ava Active Member

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    Since a lot of us have been dual wielding for a while now, I still would like to spend some time to share some of my findings :oops:

    Basics: Dual wield can be a weapon/weapon combination or weapon/shield combination

    My focus here will be the weapon/weapon combination.

    Myth: Dual wield increase ATK
    Fact: Not necessarily....for assassins it might be a different story since they have a passive to increase ATK when equipped with 2 daggers. For all other classes, ATK and MATK is just the average of the 2 weapons.

    Example.....assume player base ATK and MATK without equipping any weapon are both 100. If he equip Weapon A which gives 50 ATK and 40 MATK only, his final ATK and MATK will be 150 and 140. Now if he equips the 2nd weapon B which gives 30 ATK and 20 MATK, his final ATK and MATK will be 140 and 130. Now you can see the player is better off using only 1 weapon. For weapons like Axes that doesn't give MATK, the MATK will be treated as zero when taking into then average.

    My personal takeaway is that for all the non assassin class and non creator, there is really no need to dual wield since you will need to spend the $$$ to upgrade 2 weapons which doesn't offer any added benefits.

    Why creators? Typically creators choose between axes or blunt, one gives higher dmg but have to forgo the Potion Mist, one gives support for MATK but lower ATK. Now imagine if you dual wield with one ax and one blunt :woot:, you will have higher dmg than blunt and some healing.....basically middle of the road...one more choice people :D

    One last thing is left and right hand difference, your skill usage is based on your right hand weapon. For example, creator has skills that can only be used either with ax or blunt. Since we are dual wielding with both ax and blunt, we still can't use all those skills. If the right hand is ax and left hand is blunt, then you can use the ax only skills. If the skill is a blunt only, then you won't be able to use that skill even though you have blunt equipped...coz it's in your left hand. Once you switch the blunt to right and ax to right, you can use the blunt only skill, but not the ax only one.

    Hope this helps :p
     
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    Threnody Homicidal Adventurer

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    Highly appreciated.
    Thank you for posting your observation sweetie ;)

    *stickled*
     
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  3. Julie Ava

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    Not observation actually....I used myself as gene pig :dead:
     
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    Threnody Homicidal Adventurer

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    hmmm...yeah, its one level higher than observation.
    let's see... experimentation?
    either way, cant stress this enough - thank you so much <3
     
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    Wow nice tread!
    how bout blunt+blunt.. does the atk/matk mixed

    e.g
    matk 15, atk 10 both weapon same stats..
    when use both right and left.. does matk/atk turns.. matk 30, atk 20?
    thanks in advance
     
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    try this
    weapon A 200 patk/100matk
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    weapon B 200 park/100matk
    = 400 patk/200matk then divide by 2 = 200 patk/100 matk is average of both
    if im wrong then ask julie:D
     
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    You are totally correct, Zato :p
     
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    wep a = 150 matk, 20 patk
    wep b = 200patk
    = 75matk, 110patk ?
     
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    Vogue I started out as a baby faced monster.

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    ^ Yes
     
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  10. Julie Ava

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    Yes...unfortunately that is correct :(
     
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    marcocococo IGN: WiN / Pansit

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    About dual gun,
    Attack speed of normal hit is around 50% faster than single gun. :)
     
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    hey jul you quit being cr? im a bs now.. u from ph?
     
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    You're a what?
    ...mmmyeah we should start using Smith
    instead of the initials of Blacksmith XD
     
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    No, I'm still working on getting to lvl 50 :(
     
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    i really thought its skills are just for crafting only.. il post later the skills at creator section havent found any1 posting creator advance skills though..
     
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    Thanks for the guide! Confirms the observations I've made myself, nice to know I'm not crazy.

    I do really like the basic attack with dual-wield guns...but not enough for me to switch from sniper. :p I am considering going to sword and shield on my Crusader though.
     
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    no worries, it's perfectly normal for sane people to question their sanity~
     
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    Is it abnormal for the insane to question their insanity? :D
     
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    Insane people don't ask themselves if they're crazy coz they think they are normal.
    ...and that's coming from an insane moderator.
    FYI - I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it :woot:
    Well... half-insane to be exact... at least that's what I think...

    Wait... what're we talking about?
    Oh yeah! dual wielding! right!
    ontopic:
    Is it safe to assume now that it's not really THAT useful and it's just for show for the other classes?

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    damage-wise, to be specific
     
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    Hmn, I've never been one for numbers, but I don't know if something is hidden somewhere or what, but I'm getting a piculiar reading here.

    I have 2 knuckles; when both are on, atk = 260 ~ 296. When I remove the left hand, atk = 260 ~ 297. I do a significant amount of additional dmg with the former set-up(two knuckles) than the other. A good 50 raw dmg.
    (eg. Instead of 130, I do 179) How come? o_O
     
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