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Bard class

Discussion in 'Wonderer' started by General, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Vinyx

    Vinyx New Member

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    I see.. so MEN alone only increases Discord skill damage and not for other skills such as master class, let's say BDa Gushing Spin skill?
     
  2. Erisan

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    Yep, MEN only increase dis dmg, therapy heal n crit chance with passion (btw i think that its the same chances =P). Gushing dont change with men, maybe full men will be usefull if u want great mdef for gvg n no CD skills
     
  3. Vinyx

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    Thanks erisan. Your explanations are such an enlightment. Now I know that I would never restatus to full MEN because it only works with Bard unless I put a huge load in crysta case and use like 8s 2h spear or more. That way will make me broke IRL lol..

    At this moment, my build is roughly 20 STR and 160 DEX (including additional status). I didn't put any on MEN. My heal was like around 50 80 80 110 with TM lv7. Discord around 1,4k - 1,5k on rush1 kodora.

    And now I'm thinking about restatusing my full DEX wanderer to full STR for good damage and breezing heals. What do you say? Btw, say hi if you meet my wanderer VAI lv79 at ch1/ch7 :)
     
  4. Erisan

    Erisan New Member

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    Im try all builds for wanderer (xcept full vit) first full STR > full INT > full MEN > full DEX.
    At this moment i have 150 + 8 DEX and 42 + 28 MEN, this is my favorite build ^^ i can change between physical and magic dmg, the only problem is that i need a 2h spear and a 1h rod, both 7☆
    About therapy, my heal is 240, 350, 350 n 430
     
  5. Chantik

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    Can someone tell me how many seconds is the short cooldown of TM?
     
  6. ✨Gohan✨

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    No men also increase therapy heal.
     
  7. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Adept Rogue Gold Member

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    how-Does-not-putting-MEN-Increase-Therapy-Melody's-Heals?
     
  8. Lucian

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    I think he meant MEN also increases therapy melady. xD
     
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  9. ✨Gohan✨

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    Yea Thats what i meant
     
  10. _itzRiot

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    Honestly too many pages to really sift through nd see if it was discussed so forgive me. Now can someone tell me the purpose of the Way of Art passive?
     
  11. Vinyx

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    It simply adds 5 STR and 5 MEN. It's very useful if you wanted to get 160 STR/MEN without STR/MEN rings since basic wanderer doesn't provide passive status. Of course guild passive status bonus included.
     
  12. Himeragi Yurisa

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    Therapy Melody IS affected by Men stat.

    Discord IS affected by Men stat.
    Discord is a special skill in which it CONVERTS your base men (the number before the +) INTO 2x STR for a period of time. In other words, if you have 100 men, you will get +200 str appearing in your bonus stat column.
    Discord has another wonky hidden ability. It CANCELS out any str buff that you may have had, and gives you 3x str buff instead. An example is if a Priest uses his/her str buff on me and i use Discord it will negate the str buff and give me +300 str (example being me having 100 base men).
    Please bear in mind that these stat conversions only work if your Men stat is Higher than your Str stat, effectively making this class a Men-focused class. If your Men is lower than your Str, the result is a negative Str addon. Skill dmg is still based on Str, so i recommend a stat setup of
    5+10 Str
    150+10 Men
    50+10 Dex or Vit (depending on if you are relying on Passion Notes for crit buff or not)

    Formula for bonus str is as follows:
    (Base Men - Base Str)

    Passion Notes increases your CRIT rate based on your men stat.

    Passive is just a simple +5 str +5 men stat add on.

    If anyone needs clarifications on what and how the buffs/stat parameter conversion works, please feel free to message me here or on Facebook, my Fb name is Himeragi Yurisa. Thankees~
     
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  13. _itzRiot

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    Bet now, do I have to lvl it to 10 or is 6 gonna allow me the 5 str/men?
     
  14. Vinyx

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    For each level you've gained, it gives like... 1str, 1str, 1str, 1men, 1men, 1men, 1str, 1str, 1men, 1men or so. I forgot the exact sequence, but consider it like that.
     
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  15. _itzRiot

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    Thanks alot for the help.
     
  16. TheTruth

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    Here is a short video displaying cooldown differences of regular lvl 5 therapy melody and level 6 TYPE C therapy melody.

     
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  17. Oceanmk

    Oceanmk Jumping around..

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    I'm happy too with branch C ^^
     
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  18. bterryk

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    discord increases your status itself the moment you hit, which means theoretically it applies to any skills until the buff lasts and this is why men bard can pull the highest dmg of all classes.

    passio note has 4 hits ( 6hits if type A) and if you use discord togethrr, it boosts up passion note dmg as well
     
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  19. TheTruth

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    Just curious as I love all input and putting it together, how much do the stats go up ?
     
  20. skyro

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    I have therapy melody type B and compare the cooldown between them
     
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