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Discussion in 'Wonderer' started by Himeragi Yurisa, Dec 16, 2015.
This is confusing af lol
i checked again, type C is longer backward movement distance.....
and for the stat of ancient hidden, i try restat to 150 dex, 150 str, 150 men, 150 int....the highest damage i can do is with 150 str...
but someone with lower damage than my ancient can do damage higher +800 than mine, he said he use bard skill with men stat to buff his str, but others try cant reach his damage, any clue??
my weapon is genma lance 9*, attack stat is 1000-712
You mean he use bard skill and increased ancient skill(s) in testing or just purely bard skill only?
Bard Discord converts your men to str (only when your men is higher than your str, or it wont work)
So it is possible to get highass dmg this way, there is even a youtube vid showing the conversion of stats (i'll post link when i find it)
I believe in the bard thread we have discussed this topic. Its the power branch with -str ability of discord convert buffed str into x3 of men to str in an instant, purely for discord.
Haha interesting indeed but I'm more interested in anything than damage.
I know that YouTube video u talking about lol...that hermit one right?
Yes XD men builds have so much potential but sadly not many people dare to try it
I see more daring people around recently trying it. Give yourself a like for playing men wonderer lol..
well its true that men can buff str, but not usefull for gvg pvp, u need to use buff, and only few skills can use for men build....u dont dare to fight dex build gunner, int build mage, str build warrior, vit build monk
Recently I'm thinking builds of 1h rod and shield with Geo dancer. Get bard therapy melody. Hermit heal water and painter puppet dome. Undine healing with anti sleep branch. Use it with Men > Vit build. Aim for long lasting fight.
Hm ppl with men builds usually have to know that their buffs last extremely short, so wd is basically a class where one skill supplements the other (or one class supports the other entirely - bard/painter-hermit)
So i guess if men/vit builds with a tank/long fight mindset try their waters, they'd need good gears and probably a better understanding of their enemies as opposed to merely hacking and slashing with Gushing Spin or the other str skills (which seem to be the norm these days with almost every single melee wd I've seen fight*)
*no anton, you fight well, just that most melee wd dont think enough.
Defensive or special effect skills as priority makes battle more flexible and fun. Normally I just do a bit of damage and hope for the best outcome possible as fights are normally chaotic and a bit random with luck factor..
Ancient...that fly backwards skill I really like it. Pvp can use ……if I use 1h spear + shield.
Hmm..guess I really love to do small poking, first time that hidden dragon hits gently
1h rod + shield can do awesome hidden damage too if combine with men buff, asobimo already make wanderer into combination of monstrous skills that other classes dont have
Agreed, wd is a unique class with a combo of heals and attacks and buffs that other classes can barely match (each skill of hermit buffs a certain stat by a certain amount, i cant really think of another class that does that)
So i guess wds have to be unique in their playstyle and not try to imitate warriors or mages ._.
I wanted to take that Rhampho rain cause it was the only move that reminded me of Rogue's Dodge Dagger, and i needed another dodge skill XD
think I'm done investing into men now gonna focus on str and maybe vit and eventually get this class. let the grind for gangue begin I guess haha. also on the bard subject I'm str>men and I still get a men to str conversion from discord. so that statement about men needing to be higher or it wont work is untrue. however theres a little catch to the whole thing.
Can u buy this class for 7 gems?
No... at least not yet for now.
Did u check again? cuz a friend of mine said it cost gems to release it.
I can check on whether the last Advanced Class can be released with gems then.. :O Though I cannot check directly for Ancient yet, I can try on my Mage for Sylwinder, which is on the same category, last advanced class, as Ancient.
EDIT: Just checked and I still cannot release the 7th and 8th with gems.
Taibasa (Mage): doesn't have any option to release Glacial and Sylwinder with Gems.
Tsuyou (Aco): doesn't have any option to release Gradia and Ying Yang Master with Gems.
So I think your friend just assumed that all Advanced Classes could be released with Gems, which isn't the case.